seat work and feet work

How Feet Work Changed Four Volunteers

Impact Report, June 2025

A fishing seminar without casting a line into the water? A dialogue seminar without talking to people who disagree? Ever since David Lee, the founder of Justice For All (JFA), started talking about this in the early 2000’s (at least to me), it has been a deeply-held value at JFA to see that the training a seminar can accomplish (even a very interactive one like JFA’s) is incomplete without the step of putting things into practice in a real-life experience. In this Impact Report, Rebekah Dyer illustrates how important it is for every person we train to experience more than just a protected seminar environment (Seat Work). They also need practice in real-life conversations (Feet Work). Thanks for helping our team give volunteers “Feet Work” experiences that change their lives...and help them change the lives of others.

-Steve Wagner, Executive Director

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An integral part of my work with JFA is helping others engage their world in dialogue about abortion. Recently, several friends and other locals have joined me as volunteers on campus. While many of our volunteers attend an Abortion: From Debate to Dialogue seminar (Seat Work) before volunteering on campus (Feet Work), these four California volunteers joined us for outreach first, and the seminar then provided additional training before venturing out on campus a second or third time. Whatever the order, we’ve found that both the Seat Work and Feet Work are important to helping people develop as Christ’s ambassadors. These four shared these reflections:

Jennifer

Jennifer (left) and Karen (right) interact with students at Cal State San Marcos in April 2025.

I’m so glad to have been introduced to Justice For All a little over a year ago. The JFA training is incredibly effective, and campus outreach opportunities have provided valuable times to implement the training in practice... One of the most encouraging conversations I’ve had was with a student I’ll call Tim. Tim believed that abortion should remain legal and was a woman’s choice. He agreed the unborn was a human being but denied it was a person. After taking Tim through the equal rights argument, he sat in silence a while, thinking. He would start to say something, then stop as if catching himself, then begin again, then stop and process some more. Finally, he confessed that he had never had a case made for the unborn in that way. Tim told me that he had a whole new outlook on the situation now and that this changed everything for him.

Colleen

Rebekah (center) and Colleen (right) engage two students at MiraCosta College in March 2025.

In my experience on the college campus with Rebekah I was asked one question more than any other… “Why are you here, why are you doing this?” Often times it came with a tone of dissension. Why was I there? I was there because I wanted to be a voice for the voiceless! I believe entering into honest, graceful dialogue with those who have opposing viewpoints will begin to open up truth into a social narrative that has silenced truth. College campuses are filled with diverse worldviews, and many young minds prioritize autonomy over reason. “It’s my body, my choice” rings loudly in the common square, yet disregards innocent body within her own. Even amid resistance, moments of genuine connection emerged. I interacted with students who paused to listen, asked sincere questions, and even admitted they had never considered the humanity of the unborn in such personal terms. These moments of mutual respect and curiosity reminded me that hearts can be stirred, even in hard soil.

Karen

Karen talks to a student at San Diego State University (SDSU) in March 2025.

The first time I stepped onto campus with JFA, I was incredibly nervous. I only managed to speak with one student, and he was already pro-life, which made my interaction with him feel safe and manageable. I spent most of the day observing the JFA staff and more experienced volunteers. Watching them listen with compassion and ask thoughtful, respectful questions was both inspiring and educational. By my second outreach, I felt more courageous… Thanks to JFA’s training, I knew how to ask good questions and search for common ground by listening with an open heart. As I got into a rhythm and stopped overthinking things, I found it easier to connect. My third visit to campus was especially memorable. I connected deeply with one young man in particular. He was thoughtful, compassionate, and genuinely engaged in talking with me. At one point he shared a poignant story about his uncle that brought him to tears and he ended up asking me for a hug. I had been thinking the same thing moments before so it felt natural and organic that we embraced. He let his guard down by crying on my shoulder. I felt such a strong sense of connection that I gave him my phone number with the hope we could stay in touch. For the first time, I felt prompted to share about Jesus with someone during an outreach.

This journey has changed me. Justice For All’s training gave me the tools I needed to step into these dialogues with humility and compassion. I’ve discovered the power of simply being a humble listener and asking thoughtful, respectful questions. That alone is enough to spark meaningful conversations –conversations that can save lives and transform hearts, including my own.

Shannon

My courage has been constantly challenged throughout my experience working with JFA. At times fear has been almost paralyzing. Being out in public has made me realize that I am fearful of what people will think of me, I am fearful of saying the wrong thing, I am fearful of what people may do to me. For me, it was a huge step just to show up and participate in other people’s conversations. Later, I was able to go out and conduct surveys. Finally, I was able to engage in conversations on my own… Two young women that I encountered while conducting surveys had never seen pictures of the results of abortions. We asked them if they would be willing to look, warning them that they would be graphic, and they agreed. The looks on their faces made it clear that they had not realized the gruesomeness of the process. My prayer is that after our conversation and the experience of viewing the pictures they will have new information with which to think about the topic. People are much more likely to change their minds later in private than in a public setting. Even though we may not always see the results, it is so important that Christians engage in conversations so that bit by bit people will come to recognize the horrors of abortion.

Thank you for your support that empowers my team and me to lead these events and help others gain confidence in having these important conversations.

-Rebekah Dyer, for the JFA Team

Miriam's Seminar Ends Up in the Abortion Clinic

Impact Report: January 2013

PREFACE

A friend pulled Miriam out of bed one Saturday morning to take her to a pro-life training seminar JFA missionary Jon Wagner had arranged when he was a student at Azusa Pacific University.  It was the first in a series of small steps that ultimately led to a big decision — right inside an abortion clinic.

Time Magazine proclaimed on January 14, 2013, that “40 Years Ago, Abortion-Rights Activists Won an Epic Victory with Roe v. Wade.  They’ve Been Losing Ever Since.”  If Time is correct, we think the efforts of pro-life advocates like Miriam are the most exciting illustration of progress.  It’s small steps like hers, along with the small steps of each of us, that can change our culture.  

THE STORY

I’m writing to share with you a story of how your influence as an organization is like a pebble in a pond, whose ripples keep spreading and spreading.

In 2005, I was fortunate enough to attend JFA’s Abortion: From Debate to Dialogue seminar.  It ignited a passion which led me to attend your March 2005 trip to Texas.  I’ve since been to four more seminars and three more campus outreaches.  Needless to say, JFA’s ministry has etched itself on my heart.

A couple years ago, when it was my turn to bring the devotion to my family’s weekly dinner night, I decided to present a mini version of the JFA seminar, using my JFA training materials.  I passed out the JFA Exhibit brochure, and I even facilitated my parents and siblings and their significant others to role-play “pro-choice person” and “pro-life person.”  It went very well, and that was that. I hadn’t thought about that night for a long time, until it was brought back into my mind in a very big way.

“JFA’s ministry has etched itself on my heart.”

When I gave that mini training, my sister was dating a nice guy named “Damien,” so he was there for the training.  Later on, he and my sister went their separate ways and Damien began dating another girl, “Mindy.”  Recently, my sister came back into contact with Damien, and he shared an incredible story with her.

A few months after he began dating Mindy, they found out she was pregnant.  Being young students with only part-time jobs, they decided on abortion.  They made the appointment and went into the clinic.  When Mindy left to have the procedure done, Damien sat alone in the waiting room.  He said that suddenly all the things he had learned that night at the mini JFA training came flooding back to his mind.  

He became very frantic and forced his way to the room where Mindy was.  He begged and pleaded with her not to go through with the abortion.  In those few seconds, he blurted out everything he remembered from the training and told her he’d do whatever it took to make it work.  She said she’d think about it; then the clinic personnel forced him to leave.  Damien sat in his car and cried for two hours while he assumed his girlfriend was aborting their child.

Later that day, she called him and told him that she thought about what he had said, and she had decided not to go through with the abortion.  Today, his beautiful little girl, “Sophia,” is the joy of his life, and he told my sister that he can’t imagine life without sweet Sophia.

- Miriam Bernard

COMMENT

Miriam talks to a University of Texas student during her first JFA mission trip.

Miriam’s story is a series of small steps — steps which may not have seemed to her to change hearts or save lives.  When she had the natural opportunity to share what she had learned with her family, she took it.  She was doing what JFA trainers regularly teach in our seminar: focus on being a faithful ambassador for Christ and leave the results to him.

Once in a while God gives us a glimpse of the work he’s doing through that faithfulness, and in Miriam’s case we all have the joy of seeing how her small steps had a big impact in the lives of Damien, Mindy, and Sophia.

Those who support JFA also take steps to make sure our team can keep working full-time to save children from abortion.  Sometimes, to them, their steps seem insignificant, but God is pleased to use those small steps to make a big impact.  

The close of Miriam's letter is as much a note to our faithful supporters, as it is to our staff:

THANK YOU for the impact you have made on me, and for giving me the tools to share the truth about abortion in love and common sense with people like Damien. One can never know when those morsels of truth will surface and affect major decision-making.  Because of JFA, Sophia is alive and loving her daddy today.  

- Stephen Wagner
Director of Training

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Seat Work + Feet Work = Repeat Work

Impact Report: November 2012

Preface

We describe the JFA training program in terms of Seat Work, Feet Work, and Repeat Work.  

The duty of JFA mentors is to guide their student volunteers through an interactive seminar and then shepherd them as they practice their skills at an outreach where they talk to people in real time, many of whom really disagree!  The expected outcome?  Students will experience making a difference, and they will want to continue using their skills to change hearts and save lives.  In other words:

Seat Work (SW) + Feet Work (FW) = Repeat Work (RW)

From start to finish, Conny’s story exemplifies this simple equation.  See for yourself.

The Story

Last year I participated in the Justice For All training program.  I had several conversations during the outreach day, but one in particular changed my world.

Feet Work: Connie at a University of Nebraska outreach

“Amy” was writing on the Free Speech Board when I asked her how she felt about abortion.  She responded that it did not matter how she felt and that we should all die for putting girls at her school through the trauma of seeing pictures of abortion.  Amy seemed to hate me without even having talked to me first.

I was distraught by this.  I hated that my actions were causing pain, but I thought of the countless children who would die that day, and I stood my ground.  Little did I know that Amy’s friend “Lisa” had been raped repeatedly by the same assailant, resulting in five pregnancies.

Each time that Lisa had become pregnant, she had gotten an abortion.  Her rapist was eventually found, and he is now in prison.  He will never leave jail.

It was Amy, the girl standing right in front of me, who had gone with Lisa each time to Planned Parenthood.  Amy had been Lisa’s “Rock of Gibraltar.”

I ended up consoling Amy for the better part of an hour.  Then, she started asking questions about the things that Planned Parenthood had told her and Lisa.  For example, someone there had told them that babies don’t have heart beats until ten weeks.  She related other misrepresentations that I couldn't believe.

By the end of our conversation, she no longer hated me, and she asked for my contact information.  I felt such love for her.  As she left, I promised I would continue to talk to her.

Over the next month we talked—not about abortion, but about life.  We became good friends.  I was there for her when she had bad days, and we bonded.  I learned about her schooling, her faith, her friends, and finally, I learned about her boyfriend.

Her boyfriend…  He was not the ripest apple on the tree, but she insisted she loved him, and they were sexually active.  Eventually, he cheated on her and hurt her deeply.  She came to me to talk about it, and we hung out together.

The day Amy found out that her boyfriend had cheated on her was significant in another way:  she also learned that she was pregnant.  She had no idea what to do, so I took her to a pregnancy center.

She decided she would have the baby and let her be adopted.  I was overwhelmed with joy.  It was probably the best day of my life.  We laughed and cried together.  Then, to my amazement, she attributed her daughter's life to me!

Amy has since had the baby and given her my middle name!  The baby has been adopted by a wonderful Christian family who love her extremely.

Why do I tell this story?  I hope to inspire others to action.  A wonderful child of God was brought into this world by an hour-long conversation!  To have had this experience is the most encouraging and wonderful gift I have ever received.

-Conny Fiedler

Comment

Such a simple equation.  What a dramatic sum!  Conny graduated last spring from Pius X High School, a private Christian school in Lincoln, Nebraska.  Conny and her classmates first participated in the JFA training program in 2011.  I was privileged to mentor Conny this year during her school’s second year of offering the Justice For All training program to its students.

Thanks for helping us mentor and shepherd students like Conny through Seat Work and Feet Work and into their own opportunities for Repeat Work.

-John Michener, for the JFA Team (2012)

 

(Note: John Michener served as a Justice For All trainer from 2010-2014.  He is now the Director of Oklahomans United for Life)

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